Michael returns from his tour and opens up about his struggles with staying grounded in one place. Together with Louie, they unpack the complexities of anxiety, how to recognize it in the moment, and share personal experiences of navigating anxiety triggers. Michael’s hilarious moment of contemplating asking a bus driver for help (LOL) leads to an insightful conversation on how different people cope with similar situations.



Louie also dives deep into his decision to seek a male therapist and his concerns about working with a Black therapist. Does race play a role in therapy? Louie and Michael explore this topic while also touching on the challenges of feeling “too cool” for a therapist and the difficulties of breaking old habits—even when you’re just performing for others.



This episode is a must-listen for anyone navigating mental health, therapy concerns, or anxiety, offering real and raw conversations about growth, healing, and self-awareness. Whether you’re dealing with mental health struggles or seeking insights on finding the right therapist, tune in for an honest and empowering discussion.







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